Friday, April 13, 2012

Barbarian story possibly "simplified" - Page 2

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Nah, old badasses with awesome beards are too rare as protagonists in video games these days.

D2 Barb backstory or not, the look should stay.






Wise words as always.

The barb as he is now looks awesome and making him younger would only serve to dumb him down to the level of the male Wiz.

Games have enough younger characters as it is already. I want grizzled, dirty old veterans killing demons instead of college drop-out lady boys.|||Quote:








I want grizzled, dirty old veterans killing demons instead of college drop-out lady boys.




Then play the witch doctor.

Fine. They should make the female barb older, if they make this change.|||Quote:








Then play the witch doctor.

Fine. They should make the female barb older, if they make this change.




Exactly!

I already posted this pic but I feel obliged to do it again. ^^

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No i find it a good idea.

To have the same barb from diablo 2 returning adds unneeded complexity and a lot of explanation needed to show us the players why someone that killed all 3 prime evils suddenly grown weak(base stats again) lost his memory(his skills) and lost all his gear.

But then again i find the whole 20 years later thing extremely lame and low class when it comes to the story.




1. Its a game

2. Its been twenty years game world logic if that exist must gamers will understand he lost a step ability wise, and his gear is going to be outdated without the story telling you so.

3. If you think that's unneeded complexity I hate to see what you think is simple.|||Quote:








3. If you think that's unneeded complexity I hate to see what you think is simple.




Complexity via implementation within a narrative system that doesn't support it?|||Why would the narration have to support it? It could easily be a part of the back story that's normally put into the game manual for extra lore.|||Quote:








Why would the narration have to support it? It could easily be a part of the back story that's normally put into the game manual for extra lore.




So, you mention this in the manual then the person goes to play the game and nothing is mentioned there?|||Did D2 ever mention Trang-Oul? Go into details about the Viz-Jaq'taar? How about the amazonian islands?



The manuals are there because they give lore that the game doesn't mention.



Now though, there was the tid bit and Cain saying "You still live." In and out, it can easily be explained, and nothing needed past 1-2 lines.

Charsi adds more than that when seeing a barb.|||If Blizzard does this they will have killed the single best lore idea of D3.

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Did D2 ever mention Trang-Oul? Go into details about the Viz-Jaq'taar? How about the amazonian islands?



The manuals are there because they give lore that the game doesn't mention.



Now though, there was the tid bit and Cain saying "You still live." In and out, it can easily be explained, and nothing needed past 1-2 lines.

Charsi adds more than that when seeing a barb.




And guess what? That's bad narrative.

I wish you guys would just admit that it's fan service and be done with it. I don't care about it either way, but I do appreciate the fact that they are smart enough to see that it is an error. Bad writing.

From someone who has done more than a little creative writing in his time, that's a good sign. I've done more than a small amount of research about game narratives and I have to say that they are incredibly amateur. Which is why little bits like this make me fuzzy inside.

If they kept it as the barb from D2, that's fine, too, because they are doing it to service the fans. That's a cool kind of meta-narrative that I can appreciate as long as it is acknowledged that it is nothing but fan service.

Ironically I had to do two edits of this post.

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