Barbarian Amnesia?

[:1]Assuming this hasn't changed.

As far as we know at this moment the male Barbarian is no longer officially the same barb that defeated Diablo and his brothers in Diablo 2.

As with many others this disappoints me.

It just adds a lot of depth to the character to have him have experienced events similar to what's happening in D3 before. It also separates him for the other characters in many ways which gives him additional appeal as a character.

Though since obviously the D3 team wants to be lazy this is not possible without separating his dialogue way too much from the female barb...or is it?

Something that I think would gladden at least some fans is if they gave him amnesia that he attained from having endured all the maddening events of Diablo 2 and it's hell.

This would explain him having slim to no skills available at the beginning as well as make him interact with returning characters as if he didn't know them, the only change would be how some of these npcs interacted with him since they still would remember him. Assuming they even recognize him with that beard.

Does this sound like a viable solution or do you have any better suggestions?|||That's not a bad idea. It worked for The Witcher and it can work for D3.|||Even aside from it being a kinda cheesy plot device, if he's got amnesia, what's the point? I mean if all his interactions and plot permutations are identical to those of the other chars who know nothing about past events, what's the point in saying it's the same Barb?

The whole point in having it be the same guy, IMHO, is that he'd react differently to lots of stuff. He remembers meeting Tyrael, he's been to Hell before, he knows who Diablo is, etc. That backstory would allow for some interesting plot twists. Which is apparently why it's not happening, since it would have complicated the story writing, required lots of different dialogue for just one char, maybe made some plot events nonsensical, etc.|||I am so much disappointed that he's not the same barbarian from d2. Barbarians are proud people, nearly all of the barbarians died battling Baal, died trying to defend their sacred place. It was their very sacred duty.So, where was our new barbarian while his brothers battling against Baal? Barbarians are proud people I would be ashamed of myself if I was the d3 barbarian. Making this game is their job, they shouldnt take short cuts, I hope he'd be same barb from d2|||Quote:








I am so much disappointed that he's not the same barbarian from d2. Barbarians are proud people, nearly all of the barbarians died battling Baal, died trying to defend their sacred place. It was their very sacred duty.So, where was our new barbarian while his brothers battling against Baal? Barbarians are proud people I would be ashamed of myself if I was the d3 barbarian. Making this game is their job, they shouldnt take short cuts, I hope he'd be same barb from d2




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so obviously he was one of those that didn't

perhaps he was a child, 5 years old

that would make him 25 now (D3 continues 20 years later ?)

so now is the perfect age for him to go fight

and I always thought being the same barb from D2 was dumb, just some silly gimmick

due to his fame and great deed of killing baal he would have promoted to general or even commander in chief, but he would have continued being a "front line kind of guy" (like Maximus in Gladiator)

he would have died an heroic death many years ago

I hope to see a statue in his honor somewhere|||Quote:








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so obviously he was one of those that didn't

perhaps he was a child, 5 years old

that would make him 25 now (D3 continues 20 years later ?)

so now is the perfect age for him to go fight

and I always thought being the same barb from D2 was dumb, just some silly gimmick

due to his fame and great deed of killing baal he would have promoted to general or even commander in chief, but he would have continued being a "front line kind of guy" (like Maximus in Gladiator)

he would have died an heroic death many years ago

I hope to see a statue in his honor somewhere




D3 barbarian looks quite old there would be so much gap lorewise. Instead of fullfilling these gaps for a new barbarian, its better if d3 barb is the same one from d2. It feels epic to contine your journey as your previous barbarian.

And yes the statue would be nice if we have a new barb in d3.|||It would be cool to be the same barb regardless of how much it would actually change the game. Though It's just an idea of how they could scale down the differences between the male and female barb without making them interact almost the same way.|||Here's what I don't understand. Clearly, There are 7 different classes in D2 (After Expansion). Clearly, every class has been played through to the end of the story line that was told so far. NOT just the Barbarian. So why the hell can't ALL the classes have unique insight into the "goings on" after having witnessed all the events that occurred in D2. Why, at first, did they only let the Barbarian be the only continuing class when he wasn't the only class going through it all?

and yes, you don't need to remind me that the Barbarian is the only returning class. but that is part of the problem. It may have been best to not have the barbarian there and just produce a similar class with a different title. Blizzard has yet to explain WHY the other classes are all, just suddenly not there anymore. That and why these new classes weren't present in D2, Lore wise. It's a serious story flaw. The more I think about it the more I get confused.

They need to explain why the other classes aren't involved anymore, and why these new classes are only JUST starting to get involved. Then figure out if a continuing class makes any sense. Right now it doesn't. At least to me.|||As I see the lore, Diablo and Baal weren't defeated by "classes." It wasn't like 500 different Paladins did the same job, interchangeably. The heroes of D2 were seven individuals, some of whom came from organizations that provided them with their initial training (Pal, Asn) but most of whom were just solitary adventurers from disparate backgrounds and cultures, who found themselves in the clutch of great events and rose to the occasion.

Afterwards, they went back to their lives, or were driven crazy and died, etc. They didn't necessarily return to the command center of their class and teach or spread the word about what had just happened.

So while there are still heroes from their same backgrounds around in the world (we know Paladins and Necromancers show up as NPCs), there's no particular reason that a new individual (well, male and female in D3) from those same schools of training would necessarily be in the right place and right time to become deeply-involved in the key events of this new story/saga.

Or perhaps there are Paladins and Necromancers and Druids and Amazons, etc, also struggling against the return of evil. The NPCs always talk about "other adventurers" after all, who don't seem to get on screen. we're just not seeing the representatives of those classes front and center as playable chars in D3.

And yes, it all basically boils down to the devs wanting to make new classes and new play styles in D3, and then finding lore reasons for it.|||Quote:








As I see the lore, Diablo and Baal weren't defeated by "classes." It wasn't like 500 different Paladins did the same job, interchangeably. The heroes of D2 were seven individuals, some of whom came from organizations that provided them with their initial training (Pal, Asn) but most of whom were just solitary adventurers from disparate backgrounds and cultures, who found themselves in the clutch of great events and rose to the occasion.

Afterwards, they went back to their lives, or were driven crazy and died, etc. They didn't necessarily return to the command center of their class and teach or spread the word about what had just happened.

So while there are still heroes from their same backgrounds around in the world (we know Paladins and Necromancers show up as NPCs), there's no particular reason that a new individual (well, male and female in D3) from those same schools of training would necessarily be in the right place and right time to become deeply-involved in the key events of this new story/saga.

Or perhaps there are Paladins and Necromancers and Druids and Amazons, etc, also struggling against the return of evil. The NPCs always talk about "other adventurers" after all, who don't seem to get on screen. we're just not seeing the representatives of those classes front and center as playable chars in D3.

And yes, it all basically boils down to the devs wanting to make new classes and new play styles in D3, and then finding lore reasons for it.






Yea, I get what your saying there Flux. I actually didn't intend to give off the impression that I thought that 500+ players were defeating Diablo and Baal all at the same time, in the same world and universe and only being able to see yourself and no others. I was thinking more like...parallel universes. Where each user is the hero in their own game/universe.

However, each race (or class) still contributed. Yet, amongst all the Hero's of the 7 classes, they still choose the Barbarian. Insinuating that he was the only race that had any previous involvement. They could have just as easily chose the Paladin, The Sorceress, or whatever..take your pick.

The question is, using my parallel universe theory, who's to say which universe, with different races being the main hero, is the real one? My answer being, they all are. Which is why it's confusing.